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	<title>Comments on: MORE FISCAL TROUBLE LIES AHEAD by David Himmelstein, MD</title>
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		<title>By: A Healthy Blog &#187; Attention Reporters and Editors: Read This Before Tuesday (Single-Payer Guys, Too)</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Healthy Blog &#187; Attention Reporters and Editors: Read This Before Tuesday (Single-Payer Guys, Too)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an expert consensus that the CPS numbers overstate the uninsured, Drs. Steffie Woolhandler and David Himmelstein write frequently that the Census Bureau numbers are the right measure of the uninsured. This leads [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an expert consensus that the CPS numbers overstate the uninsured, Drs. Steffie Woolhandler and David Himmelstein write frequently that the Census Bureau numbers are the right measure of the uninsured. This leads [...]</p>
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		<title>By: medical</title>
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		<dc:creator>medical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Brian, Dr. Himmelstein’s post is not absolutely false. You and others at HCFA, DHCFP, MAHP, BCBS, and others within the medical industrial complex can try to spin the numbers in an effort to prop up this harmful and wasteful law, but sooner or later “The Emperor Has No Clothes” will catch up with you and your ilk. The many people who will be hurt in the meantime is a disgrace…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Brian, Dr. Himmelstein’s post is not absolutely false. You and others at HCFA, DHCFP, MAHP, BCBS, and others within the medical industrial complex can try to spin the numbers in an effort to prop up this harmful and wasteful law, but sooner or later “The Emperor Has No Clothes” will catch up with you and your ilk. The many people who will be hurt in the meantime is a disgrace…</p>
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		<title>By: CommonHealth</title>
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		<dc:creator>CommonHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Agnes - which CHCs did you hear are turning away new patients?

thanks, Martha Bebinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Agnes &#8211; which CHCs did you hear are turning away new patients?</p>
<p>thanks, Martha Bebinger</p>
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		<title>By: agnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>agnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beginning to hear that a number of community health centers can no longer accept new patients.  I&#039;m wondering if anyone can answer for me: 
What does this mean for the poor and underserved for whom CHCs have been designed; and, Will this situation lead to overuse of expensive ED usage as an alternative, one of the situations health care reform was supposted to address?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to hear that a number of community health centers can no longer accept new patients.  I&#8217;m wondering if anyone can answer for me:<br />
What does this mean for the poor and underserved for whom CHCs have been designed; and, Will this situation lead to overuse of expensive ED usage as an alternative, one of the situations health care reform was supposted to address?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candidates proposing universal health care are inspiring.  However, we need
to fix the health care system as well.
As a patient and a former employee (I used to work at a famous hospital on
Long Island) of the health care system - I have first-hand knowledge on how
the care system works in America.
Close to 100,000 people die each year in hospitals due to medical errors.
The hospital I worked at had too much administrative waste.  There was
endless paperwork in processing patient information.
Many of the positions, especially in the non-medical areas, were filled
through nepotism.  Many of the supervisors and mid-level managers at this
hospital were concerned about how they looked to top administrators, rather
then perform thier jobs effectively.  (CYA was the major activity).
A question I would like to ask the general public, particularly doctors -
How come doctors never challenge other doctors?
Right after I graduated college I was “confused,” doing drugs, and getting into trouble; so my parents sent me to psychiatrist.  The psychiatrist said I was “mentally ill” and he sent me to neurologist for my tests. (Our family doctor stated at first I did not need any tests, and then he changed his mind.)  The neurologist examined my brain and said I was fine.  I just needed to “grow up.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candidates proposing universal health care are inspiring.  However, we need<br />
to fix the health care system as well.<br />
As a patient and a former employee (I used to work at a famous hospital on<br />
Long Island) of the health care system &#8211; I have first-hand knowledge on how<br />
the care system works in America.<br />
Close to 100,000 people die each year in hospitals due to medical errors.<br />
The hospital I worked at had too much administrative waste.  There was<br />
endless paperwork in processing patient information.<br />
Many of the positions, especially in the non-medical areas, were filled<br />
through nepotism.  Many of the supervisors and mid-level managers at this<br />
hospital were concerned about how they looked to top administrators, rather<br />
then perform thier jobs effectively.  (CYA was the major activity).<br />
A question I would like to ask the general public, particularly doctors -<br />
How come doctors never challenge other doctors?<br />
Right after I graduated college I was “confused,” doing drugs, and getting into trouble; so my parents sent me to psychiatrist.  The psychiatrist said I was “mentally ill” and he sent me to neurologist for my tests. (Our family doctor stated at first I did not need any tests, and then he changed his mind.)  The neurologist examined my brain and said I was fine.  I just needed to “grow up.”</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Malone, RN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Malone, RN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Brian, Dr. Himmelstein&#039;s post is not absolutely false.  You and others at HCFA, DHCFP, MAHP, BCBS, and others within the medical industrial complex can try to spin the numbers in an effort to prop up this harmful and wasteful law, but sooner or later &quot;The Emperor Has No Clothes&quot; will catch up with you and your ilk. The many people who will be hurt in the meantime is a disgrace...

It&#039;s a tragedy that so much money and effort has been poured into this terribly flawed reform law - isn&#039;t it time to seize the momentum and re-chart the course toward real reform? And please don&#039;t tell me &quot;but what about all the newly insured?...&quot; Yes, that&#039;s VERY good for the short term but not if it comes at such a high cost to the state that we can&#039;t sustain it, largely due to the wasteful financing mechanism (that Romney and Bush &amp; CO. were so pleased with), and if it abandons and punishes those who remain uninsured. That is NOT A GOOD THING.

Slowly the national media are starting to get this, see this [Wall Street Journal piece http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120173996744030445.html]

Note that the dimensions of the law that deserve closer scrutiny go FAR FAR beyond the budget numbers to address the core values and principles (or lack thereof) of the individual mandate policy that is a centerpiece of the MA Plan.

and while we&#039;re on the topic of national publications &quot;Getting it&quot;, take a look at this

[The New England Journal of Medicine
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/358/6/549?query=TOC

&quot;...Relentless medical inflation has been attributed to many factors — the aging population, the proliferation of new technologies, poor diet and lack of exercise, the tendency of supply (physicians, hospitals, tests, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and novel treatments) to generate its own demand, excessive litigation and defensive medicine, and tax-favored insurance coverage.

Here is a second opinion. Changing demographics and medical technology pose a cost challenge for every nation&#039;s system, but ours is the outlier. The extreme failure of the United States to contain medical costs results primarily from our unique, pervasive commercialization. The dominance of for-profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies, a new wave of investor-owned specialty hospitals, and profit-maximizing behavior even by nonprofit players raise costs and distort resource allocation. Profits, billing, marketing, and the gratuitous costs of private bureaucracies siphon off $400 billion to $500 billion of the $2.1 trillion spent, but the more serious and less appreciated syndrome is the set of perverse incentives produced by commercial dominance of the system....&quot;

For those who share the commitment to create a humane and effective healthcare system to provide quality affordable care for all, please join the growing movement at http://www.HealthCare-Now.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Brian, Dr. Himmelstein&#8217;s post is not absolutely false.  You and others at HCFA, DHCFP, MAHP, BCBS, and others within the medical industrial complex can try to spin the numbers in an effort to prop up this harmful and wasteful law, but sooner or later &#8220;The Emperor Has No Clothes&#8221; will catch up with you and your ilk. The many people who will be hurt in the meantime is a disgrace&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tragedy that so much money and effort has been poured into this terribly flawed reform law &#8211; isn&#8217;t it time to seize the momentum and re-chart the course toward real reform? And please don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;but what about all the newly insured?&#8230;&#8221; Yes, that&#8217;s VERY good for the short term but not if it comes at such a high cost to the state that we can&#8217;t sustain it, largely due to the wasteful financing mechanism (that Romney and Bush &amp; CO. were so pleased with), and if it abandons and punishes those who remain uninsured. That is NOT A GOOD THING.</p>
<p>Slowly the national media are starting to get this, see this [Wall Street Journal piece <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120173996744030445.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120173996744030445.html</a></p>
<p>Note that the dimensions of the law that deserve closer scrutiny go FAR FAR beyond the budget numbers to address the core values and principles (or lack thereof) of the individual mandate policy that is a centerpiece of the MA Plan.</p>
<p>and while we&#8217;re on the topic of national publications &#8220;Getting it&#8221;, take a look at this</p>
<p>[The New England Journal of Medicine<br />
<a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/358/6/549?query=TOC" rel="nofollow">http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/358/6/549?query=TOC</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Relentless medical inflation has been attributed to many factors — the aging population, the proliferation of new technologies, poor diet and lack of exercise, the tendency of supply (physicians, hospitals, tests, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and novel treatments) to generate its own demand, excessive litigation and defensive medicine, and tax-favored insurance coverage.</p>
<p>Here is a second opinion. Changing demographics and medical technology pose a cost challenge for every nation&#8217;s system, but ours is the outlier. The extreme failure of the United States to contain medical costs results primarily from our unique, pervasive commercialization. The dominance of for-profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies, a new wave of investor-owned specialty hospitals, and profit-maximizing behavior even by nonprofit players raise costs and distort resource allocation. Profits, billing, marketing, and the gratuitous costs of private bureaucracies siphon off $400 billion to $500 billion of the $2.1 trillion spent, but the more serious and less appreciated syndrome is the set of perverse incentives produced by commercial dominance of the system&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>For those who share the commitment to create a humane and effective healthcare system to provide quality affordable care for all, please join the growing movement at <a href="http://www.HealthCare-Now.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.HealthCare-Now.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rosman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Rosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Himmelstein&#039;s comment repeats a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;meme&lt;/a&gt; that is rapidly spreading and absolutely false. 

For the record, health reform spending is not estimated to be $400 million over projections next year. The Governor&#039;s budget expects total spending to grow next year by $400 million, but that is entirely different than a $400 million cost overrun. Much of the increase was totally expected, due to enrollment growth and medical inflation.

The original legislative budget estimates, which did not use the lower DHCFP estimates of the number of uninsured, projected a $325 million increase between FY08 and FY09. 

And of course, the cost to the state is estimated to be $156 million, since with increased spending comes increased federal revenue.

Slowly the national media are starting to get this, see this &lt;a href=&quot;http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/misinformed-on-massachusetts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;column by Paul Krugman&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Himmelstein&#8217;s comment repeats a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme" rel="nofollow">meme</a> that is rapidly spreading and absolutely false. </p>
<p>For the record, health reform spending is not estimated to be $400 million over projections next year. The Governor&#8217;s budget expects total spending to grow next year by $400 million, but that is entirely different than a $400 million cost overrun. Much of the increase was totally expected, due to enrollment growth and medical inflation.</p>
<p>The original legislative budget estimates, which did not use the lower DHCFP estimates of the number of uninsured, projected a $325 million increase between FY08 and FY09. </p>
<p>And of course, the cost to the state is estimated to be $156 million, since with increased spending comes increased federal revenue.</p>
<p>Slowly the national media are starting to get this, see this <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/misinformed-on-massachusetts/" rel="nofollow">column by Paul Krugman</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Norma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Doctor Himmelstein your honesty on this blog is refreshing.Some powers that be think because we don&#039;t have insurance we also must be stupid.Beleive me most the citizens writing on this blog know more about this law than the lawmakers.I watched Michael Moore on Larry King and I agree with his ideas also.&quot;Getting rid of insurance companies entirely.&quot;The state also needs to do away with Commonwealth Connector Authority and Health Care for All that are bureaucracies that are wasting taxpayers money.All people would benefit not just the uninsured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Doctor Himmelstein your honesty on this blog is refreshing.Some powers that be think because we don&#8217;t have insurance we also must be stupid.Beleive me most the citizens writing on this blog know more about this law than the lawmakers.I watched Michael Moore on Larry King and I agree with his ideas also.&#8221;Getting rid of insurance companies entirely.&#8221;The state also needs to do away with Commonwealth Connector Authority and Health Care for All that are bureaucracies that are wasting taxpayers money.All people would benefit not just the uninsured.</p>
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