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	<title>Comments on: SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM by Susan L. Kaufman</title>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a societal perspective, the best thing we could do right now is to take money out of the health care system.  We spend twice what other societies spend on health care and get worse results.  I don&#039;t think diet and exercise account for the different societal outcomes, but even if the American lifestyle is actually responsible for these statistics, then people need that time (that they are now spending paying for the health care system) back so they can get more rest and exercise.  We have to prioritize, because money equates to people&#039;s time and time is a finite resource.  It comes down to whether the cost is worth the benefit and right now health care is not worth the high cost.   And more importantly I doubt it could ever be worth such a high cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a societal perspective, the best thing we could do right now is to take money out of the health care system.  We spend twice what other societies spend on health care and get worse results.  I don&#8217;t think diet and exercise account for the different societal outcomes, but even if the American lifestyle is actually responsible for these statistics, then people need that time (that they are now spending paying for the health care system) back so they can get more rest and exercise.  We have to prioritize, because money equates to people&#8217;s time and time is a finite resource.  It comes down to whether the cost is worth the benefit and right now health care is not worth the high cost.   And more importantly I doubt it could ever be worth such a high cost.</p>
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		<title>By: BMoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton said, “Because that’s where the money is.” When we look at the often lopsided focus of our healthcare system, what drives hospitals to focus on the areas they do, e.g., we can’t overlook the fact that they are simply following Sutton’s law. Third party payers pay for acute care and specialty care and so that’s exactly what providers deliver.

In the 1990’s the sound byte was “it’s the economy, stupid.” Our healthcare system’s woes now reflect “it’s the reimbursement (and policies), stupid.” For example, third party payers, including government payers, don’t often reimburse for healthcare educators to be a part of practices to support primary care clinicians, yet educators, like all working individuals, expect to be paid for their services. And primary care clinicians struggle to cover the costs of running their practices, often not even receiving full reimbursement to cover the cost of vaccine purchase from insurers who are fully aware of this shortfall. To compensate for shrinking reimbursement, clinicians must increase the volume of patients seen. This leaves insufficient time for patient education. And it also leaves no money to cover the costs of educator salaries, absent third party reimbursement for such. But payers choose to not reimburse educators at a reasonable rate. Insurers often won’t cover the cost of nutrition visits until a patient is morbidly obese. So much for an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure! Meanwhile, hospitals focus on services often based on where the reimbursement dollars exist, rather than on where the community needs exist. 

The invited blog said, “Follow up, care coordination and patient education take time. All patients can’t be funneled into a 15-minute visit.” The secret is that when patients wait an hour or more to be seen, it’s usually because insufficiently time-allotted and often one-size-fits-all visits collide with the realities of caring for patients. Those clinicians who refuse to ignore patient needs and so try to give the patient extra time despite not having it in their schedule end up running late. I recall a patient admitting to me that she changed to a doctor that was always on time because the doctor she originally saw always ran behind. Then, one day she needed more time than the 10 minute slot allotted for the visit because she was worried sick about her child. But at the 10 minute mark, the doctor strode out of the room and went on to the next patient. Suddenly, this woman realized why no one had to wait to see this doctor, and realized what she traded when she left the other doctor’s panel. It is unfortunate that this is the reality, because everyone loses. Nor does this reality make for a satisfying professional career, where thoughts of retirement never cross a physician’s mind—the experience of older physicians.

Administrators generally are ‘bottom-line’ people. As such, they often come up with suggestions such as ‘do 10 minute annual physicals’ as the solution to patient access problems, clearly not understanding what’s involved in performing high quality care, especially for those patients who have issues or chronic conditions. Access is not merely the act of getting the patient into (and out of) the exam room. Access is having adequate time to deal with the patients’ issues and to fulfill the ever-growing clinician’s tasks, many of which are part of ‘pay for performance.’ Again, this results in a collision, or trade-off. Do I as clinician focus on the patient’s concerns or on the pay for performance requirements that will assure I can cover my practice costs for this visit while not ending up with bad marks on the quality web site because I neglected items on the checklist when time was devoted to the patient’s concerns instead. The double bind is that I don’t have time for both. Speeding up the conveyor belt of office visits is not an effective way to improve access. It’s merely a way to give the impression that you’re improving access. 

The National Conference of State Legislatures web pages on chronic disease demonstrate a huge void for Massachusetts. Namely, we have no chronic disease legislation or chronic disease requirements of insurers. Yet third party payers of all stripes know the same dismal fact…that those few with chronic disease consume the vast majority of healthcare expenditures. Massachusetts is no exception to this rule, yet Massachusetts has not thought about legislative policy to deal directly with this fact. Pitney Bowes knows from experience that savvy benefit design, despite increased short term costs, saves money in the long term.  So it moved all asthma, diabetes and hypertension meds and supplies to formulary tier one, in some cases, distributed meds without costs to patients, used aggressive case-finding and case management, etc. and reduced its healthcare expenditures. It’s time to get smarter about policy and benefit design. Putting too much “skin in the game” when the average consumer’s skin is rapidly thinning due to the growing wage disparity, shrinking tax base and rising prices of necessary goods in the USA make many consumers highly price sensitive, may merely forestall patients getting necessary care early enough for the problem to be easier and less expensive to manage. This cost-shifting may give the impression that we are containing costs as healthcare service utilization declines. But delays may come at a higher price, long term. There is no silver bullet or spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down when it comes to dealing with the complexities of our healthcare system and its costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton said, “Because that’s where the money is.” When we look at the often lopsided focus of our healthcare system, what drives hospitals to focus on the areas they do, e.g., we can’t overlook the fact that they are simply following Sutton’s law. Third party payers pay for acute care and specialty care and so that’s exactly what providers deliver.</p>
<p>In the 1990’s the sound byte was “it’s the economy, stupid.” Our healthcare system’s woes now reflect “it’s the reimbursement (and policies), stupid.” For example, third party payers, including government payers, don’t often reimburse for healthcare educators to be a part of practices to support primary care clinicians, yet educators, like all working individuals, expect to be paid for their services. And primary care clinicians struggle to cover the costs of running their practices, often not even receiving full reimbursement to cover the cost of vaccine purchase from insurers who are fully aware of this shortfall. To compensate for shrinking reimbursement, clinicians must increase the volume of patients seen. This leaves insufficient time for patient education. And it also leaves no money to cover the costs of educator salaries, absent third party reimbursement for such. But payers choose to not reimburse educators at a reasonable rate. Insurers often won’t cover the cost of nutrition visits until a patient is morbidly obese. So much for an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure! Meanwhile, hospitals focus on services often based on where the reimbursement dollars exist, rather than on where the community needs exist. </p>
<p>The invited blog said, “Follow up, care coordination and patient education take time. All patients can’t be funneled into a 15-minute visit.” The secret is that when patients wait an hour or more to be seen, it’s usually because insufficiently time-allotted and often one-size-fits-all visits collide with the realities of caring for patients. Those clinicians who refuse to ignore patient needs and so try to give the patient extra time despite not having it in their schedule end up running late. I recall a patient admitting to me that she changed to a doctor that was always on time because the doctor she originally saw always ran behind. Then, one day she needed more time than the 10 minute slot allotted for the visit because she was worried sick about her child. But at the 10 minute mark, the doctor strode out of the room and went on to the next patient. Suddenly, this woman realized why no one had to wait to see this doctor, and realized what she traded when she left the other doctor’s panel. It is unfortunate that this is the reality, because everyone loses. Nor does this reality make for a satisfying professional career, where thoughts of retirement never cross a physician’s mind—the experience of older physicians.</p>
<p>Administrators generally are ‘bottom-line’ people. As such, they often come up with suggestions such as ‘do 10 minute annual physicals’ as the solution to patient access problems, clearly not understanding what’s involved in performing high quality care, especially for those patients who have issues or chronic conditions. Access is not merely the act of getting the patient into (and out of) the exam room. Access is having adequate time to deal with the patients’ issues and to fulfill the ever-growing clinician’s tasks, many of which are part of ‘pay for performance.’ Again, this results in a collision, or trade-off. Do I as clinician focus on the patient’s concerns or on the pay for performance requirements that will assure I can cover my practice costs for this visit while not ending up with bad marks on the quality web site because I neglected items on the checklist when time was devoted to the patient’s concerns instead. The double bind is that I don’t have time for both. Speeding up the conveyor belt of office visits is not an effective way to improve access. It’s merely a way to give the impression that you’re improving access. </p>
<p>The National Conference of State Legislatures web pages on chronic disease demonstrate a huge void for Massachusetts. Namely, we have no chronic disease legislation or chronic disease requirements of insurers. Yet third party payers of all stripes know the same dismal fact…that those few with chronic disease consume the vast majority of healthcare expenditures. Massachusetts is no exception to this rule, yet Massachusetts has not thought about legislative policy to deal directly with this fact. Pitney Bowes knows from experience that savvy benefit design, despite increased short term costs, saves money in the long term.  So it moved all asthma, diabetes and hypertension meds and supplies to formulary tier one, in some cases, distributed meds without costs to patients, used aggressive case-finding and case management, etc. and reduced its healthcare expenditures. It’s time to get smarter about policy and benefit design. Putting too much “skin in the game” when the average consumer’s skin is rapidly thinning due to the growing wage disparity, shrinking tax base and rising prices of necessary goods in the USA make many consumers highly price sensitive, may merely forestall patients getting necessary care early enough for the problem to be easier and less expensive to manage. This cost-shifting may give the impression that we are containing costs as healthcare service utilization declines. But delays may come at a higher price, long term. There is no silver bullet or spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down when it comes to dealing with the complexities of our healthcare system and its costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Malone, RN</title>
		<link>http://commonhealth.wbur.org/guest-contributors/2008/04/shock-to-the-system-by-susan-l-kaufman/comment-page-1/#comment-7028</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Malone, RN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum to my above angry communication: 

I don&#039;t want my prior remarks to obscure the fact that Urban Medical and its staff do indeed provide good and essential health care services to many in the community. I am many others are grateful for their existence and their commitment to caring for the community.

It remains appalling that programs such as Urban Medical are, by far, the exception rather than the  standard available type of care for frail elders and others across our state and our nation. We must work together to remedy that situation as one part of our commitment to achieving fundamental health system reforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum to my above angry communication: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want my prior remarks to obscure the fact that Urban Medical and its staff do indeed provide good and essential health care services to many in the community. I am many others are grateful for their existence and their commitment to caring for the community.</p>
<p>It remains appalling that programs such as Urban Medical are, by far, the exception rather than the  standard available type of care for frail elders and others across our state and our nation. We must work together to remedy that situation as one part of our commitment to achieving fundamental health system reforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Norma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t there a shock to the system that people cannot afford medical insurance?The bubble will burst as people and business cannot support the greedy insurance companies so like the housing market it too will burst.Years ago corporations profit goals were in the millions,now it&#039;s in the billions,whats next trillions?Well now that the cost of living is through the roof we&#039;re broke and the well is dry,what&#039;s next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t there a shock to the system that people cannot afford medical insurance?The bubble will burst as people and business cannot support the greedy insurance companies so like the housing market it too will burst.Years ago corporations profit goals were in the millions,now it&#8217;s in the billions,whats next trillions?Well now that the cost of living is through the roof we&#8217;re broke and the well is dry,what&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Malone, RN</title>
		<link>http://commonhealth.wbur.org/guest-contributors/2008/04/shock-to-the-system-by-susan-l-kaufman/comment-page-1/#comment-7016</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Malone, RN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh. We should be beyond this level of conversation on the topic by now.

&quot;When it comes to health care in general and primary care in particular, America is not keeping pace with the rest of the world. Shocking as it may be, America is not in the top 30 countries in infant mortality and not in the top 40 in life expectancy at birth. We have a health system organized around acute care.&quot;

Ms Kaufman, you left out the part about &quot;We have a health system organized around PROFIT-DRIVEN care.&quot; Acute care dominates because it generates more profit. 

The greed that pervades the U.S. medical-industrial complex is bankrupting us all, as well as maiming and killing millions of Americans. Not your Urban Medical group but you cannot pretend to exist as an island.  If you&#039;re not part of working for a real solution than you&#039;re a part of the problem.  That goes for the politicians, especially.

Why won&#039;t any of you &quot;invited posters&quot; talk about the elephant in the parlor on this issue?  Tens of thousands of people are dying prematurely (after suffering a lot, I might add) EVERY SINGLE YEAR in the US because we allow health care to be treated as a commodity rather than as a public good. Because of this disgraceful fact we don&#039;t have a national health insurance program!! 

And we&#039;re all being bankrupted (morally, as well as financially) by our dysfunctional, inequitable, and horribly expensive profit-driven system of health care.

It&#039;s time Americans started losing their patience on this immoral issue and instead started getting outraged and then acting together to make changes in a targeted and effective way.

Please learn more and join this work at http://www.MassCare.org and on the national level at http://www.HealthCare-Now.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh. We should be beyond this level of conversation on the topic by now.</p>
<p>&#8220;When it comes to health care in general and primary care in particular, America is not keeping pace with the rest of the world. Shocking as it may be, America is not in the top 30 countries in infant mortality and not in the top 40 in life expectancy at birth. We have a health system organized around acute care.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ms Kaufman, you left out the part about &#8220;We have a health system organized around PROFIT-DRIVEN care.&#8221; Acute care dominates because it generates more profit. </p>
<p>The greed that pervades the U.S. medical-industrial complex is bankrupting us all, as well as maiming and killing millions of Americans. Not your Urban Medical group but you cannot pretend to exist as an island.  If you&#8217;re not part of working for a real solution than you&#8217;re a part of the problem.  That goes for the politicians, especially.</p>
<p>Why won&#8217;t any of you &#8220;invited posters&#8221; talk about the elephant in the parlor on this issue?  Tens of thousands of people are dying prematurely (after suffering a lot, I might add) EVERY SINGLE YEAR in the US because we allow health care to be treated as a commodity rather than as a public good. Because of this disgraceful fact we don&#8217;t have a national health insurance program!! </p>
<p>And we&#8217;re all being bankrupted (morally, as well as financially) by our dysfunctional, inequitable, and horribly expensive profit-driven system of health care.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time Americans started losing their patience on this immoral issue and instead started getting outraged and then acting together to make changes in a targeted and effective way.</p>
<p>Please learn more and join this work at <a href="http://www.MassCare.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.MassCare.org</a> and on the national level at <a href="http://www.HealthCare-Now.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.HealthCare-Now.org</a></p>
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